Decoupling Data Operations From Data Infrastructure Using Nexla - Episode 215


The technological and social ecosystem of data engineering and data management has been reaching a stage of maturity recently. As part of this stage in our collective journey the focus has been shifting toward operation and automation of the infrastructure and workflows that power our analytical workloads. It is an encouraging sign for the industry, but it is still a complex and challenging undertaking. In order to make this world of DataOps more accessible and manageable the team at Nexla has built a platform that decouples the logical unit of data from the underlying mechanisms so that you can focus on the problems that really matter to your business. In this episode Saket Saurabh (CEO) and Avinash Shahdadpuri (CTO) share the story behind the Nexla platform, discuss the technical underpinnings, and describe how their concept of a Nexset simplifies the work of building data products for sharing within and between organizations.

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  • Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Saket Saurabh and Avinash Shahdadpuri about Nexla, a platform for powering data operations and sharing within and across businesses


  • Introduction
  • How did you get involved in the area of data management?
  • Can you describe what Nexla is and the story behind it?
  • What are the major problems that Nexla is aiming to solve?
    • What are the components of a data platform that Nexla might replace?
  • What are the use cases and benefits of being able to publish data sets for use outside and across organizations?
  • What are the different elements involved in implementing DataOps?
  • How is the Nexla platform implemented?
    • What have been the most comple engineering challenges?
    • How has the architecture changed or evolved since you first began working on it?
    • What are some of the assumptions that you had at the start which have been challenged or invalidated?
  • What are some of the heuristics that you have found most useful in generating logical units of data in an automated fashion?
  • Once a Nexset has been created, what are some of the ways that they can be used or further processed?
  • What are the attributes of a Nexset? (e.g. access control policies, lineage, etc.)
    • How do you handle storage and sharing of a Nexset?
  • What are some of your grand hopes and ambitions for the Nexla platform and the potential for data exchanges?
  • What are the most interesting, innovative, or unexpected ways that you have seen Nexla used?
  • What are the most interesting, unexpected, or challenging lessons that you have learned while working on Nexla?
  • When is Nexla the wrong choice?
  • What do you have planned for the future of Nexla?

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Parting Question

  • From your perspective, what is the biggest gap in the tooling or technology for data management today?


The intro and outro music is from The Hug by The Freak Fandango Orchestra / CC BY-SA

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