There has been a lot of discussion about the practical application of data mesh and how to implement it in an organization. Jean-Georges Perrin was tasked with designing a new data platform implementation at PayPal and wound up building a data mesh. In this episode he shares that journey and the combination of technical and organizational challenges that he encountered in the process.
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- Your host is Tobias Macey and today I'm interviewing Jean-Georges Perrin about his work at PayPal to implement a data mesh and the role of data contracts in making it work
- How did you get involved in the area of data management?
- Can you start by describing the goals and scope of your work at PayPal to implement a data mesh?
- What are the core problems that you were addressing with this project?
- Is a data mesh ever "done"?
- What was your experience engaging at the organizational level to identify the granularity and ownership of the data products that were needed in the initial iteration?
- What was the impact of leading multiple teams on the design of how to implement communication/contracts throughout the mesh?
- What are the technical systems that you are relying on to power the different data domains?
- What is your philosophy on enforcing uniformity in technical systems vs. relying on interface definitions as the unit of consistency?
- What are the biggest challenges (technical and procedural) that you have encountered during your implementation?
- How are you managing visibility/auditability across the different data domains? (e.g. observability, data quality, etc.)
- What are the most interesting, innovative, or unexpected ways that you have seen PayPal's data mesh used?
- What are the most interesting, unexpected, or challenging lessons that you have learned while working on data mesh?
- When is a data mesh the wrong choice?
- What do you have planned for the future of your data mesh at PayPal?
- From your perspective, what is the biggest gap in the tooling or technology for data management today?
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